Clare Lopez Interview: Iran Appoints Murderer President as America Capitulates


Source: American Truth Project, July 2021

Barry Nussbaum: Hello and welcome to ATP Report. I’m Barry Nussbaum. I want to remind everyone before I bring on our wonderful friend of the ATP family as our special guest today.

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So, with that out of the way, I want to bring on our wonderful, esteemed guest and friend of ATP, Clare Lopez. She’s the founder of Lopez Liberty, LLC. She was a long-time government expert with, among other places, the CIA in the Middle East.

She knows everything about terrorism, Middle East policy, and American foreign policy in relation to the Middle East. Welcome my favorite writer, author, and expert, Clare Lopez!

Clare Lopez: Thank you, Barry, very much. It’s really good to be back with you.

Barry Nussbaum: I am dying to hear your opinion on everything Iranian right now. With so much going on in the news, Iran has a new president. He was sort of elected the way they do the elections in Iran. The Grand Ayatollah picks the guy that’s going to win.

Everybody votes for him, and the ones that don’t well, they get a visit from the police or worse. This new guy, Ebrahim Raisi, is not just a bad guy. He’s literally a mass murderer, and he’s proud of it.

He was “selected” probably because of his background, not in spite of it. And now they’re talking about him as well, as a potential heir apparent to be the next supreme leader. What are your thoughts about this guy?

Clare Lopez: Well, first of all, of course, it as you say, exactly, Barry. Ebrahim Raisi is a long-time insider of the Iranian regime dating back really to the revolution of 1979. He made his way through the judiciary, though, not through the IRGC. And he was not a cleric either, not a Shiite cleric, but through the judiciary.

And it’s there in 1988 in particular, although in plenty else. But in 1988 as a senior judicial figure in Iran, he was primarily responsible for what’s known as the prison slaughter of 1988. With so many opposition members of the Mojahedin-e-Khalq, the National Council of Resistance of Iran, but others too, in jail for opposing the revolution that had taken place just less than a decade previously and opposing the theocratic Islamic rule of, then at that time, the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and many of these in prison were young people.

I mean, really young teenagers, 15, 16-year-old kids in jail, and Raisi was responsible for mass slaughter. Now, the numbers are variable, and it’s hard to know exactly how many were killed. But the numbers I’ve heard go as high as 30,000 people in the space of just weeks or a few months were murdered under Raisi’s command.

Since then, he’s been, as I said, an integral member of the regime. Interestingly, this time, and you’re right to call it a “selection” in air quotes, they are not an election because that’s how things go in Iran. But he, as I said, was not a Shiite cleric. And yet, for this selection to the Presidency of Iran, he’ll take office next month in August.

He was kind of artificially bumped up, if you will, to be an Ayatollah in a way, kind of parallel to what happened with Khomeini. The supreme leader right now, the Khamenei, who was a cleric but not an Ayatollah to Islam was bumped up artificially to become a supreme leader when Khomeini died back in 1989. So, all of these things play in.

But this is, you know, I hate dividing the figures in the regime in Iran into hardliners and moderates, but if you want to do that, this is one of the hardest of the hardliners. You know, nobody is going to get the regime in Iran to moderate or change its policies under Ebrahim Raisi.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, you know, what’s curious about that is at the same time. Maybe it’s not a coincidence at all, Clare. Iran has gone way radical, way not moderate, as you said, by picking about the worst guy they could have and it parallels the same track, I would say, in the United States.

We went from a President who had a very tough stance with Iran, which stopped the terror, stopped the bombs, stopped the nuclear enhancement, or we’re going to strangle you economically. Biden has come into the office and has made no secret about the fact that he’s Obama part two.

he’s going into the Iran nuclear deal no matter what Iran does, no matter how belligerent they are. As a result, Iran has greatly, in the last six months, ramped up their export of terror, their development of long-range missiles, the harassment of shipping.

They are hell-bent on getting to a nuclear bomb. They’re somewhere in the area of, what, 60 percent enrichment? Twenty-five times what is permitted under the JCPOA. I guess the question is: If you want a free Middle East and you want peace, you sure miss Trump right now, don’t you?

Clare Lopez: Oh, I think many of us do, and not just here in the United States, but over there as well. That litany was absolutely spot on, Barry. This Iranian regime senses weakness in the White House right now and is not even concealing the brazenness of its violations.

Not just, by the way, of the JCPOA, Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action from July 2015, the nuclear deal, as it’s called, but of the much earlier Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty to which Iran was then a signatory and remained so to this day.

But I’ll say what’s remarkable to me is to watch that now, not just the IAEA, International Atomic Energy Agency, the sort of nuclear watchdog for the UN, but also European partners that were party to the nuclear deal are all becoming alarmed at just those steps that you’re talking about.

The brazenness in particular of Iran’s nuclear weapons program, the amount of nuclear enrichment going on, the percentage- 60 percent to which the uranium is being enriched. Now, the beginning of the production of enriched uranium metal, which is needed to form a nuclear pit or nuclear bomb if that’s the direction they’re going.

If there’s any doubt left. And not to mention, of course, the aggression across the geostrategic region, backing for the Islamic jihadi proxies like Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and, of course, now those proxy militias inside of Iraq are attacking American personnel and bases where American personnel are based.

Barry Nussbaum: Clare tell our viewers out in ATP land where they can find out about you, would you please?

Clare Lopez: Well, certainly here at American Truth Project, but also my interviews and writing posted at Citizen’s Commission on National Security, the United West, and I also write occasionally, I’m way behind, but for Newsmax, I have a blog at, and then I am on social media. Twitter, Facebook, Parlay, and also now on Telegram. Telegram at Liberty Lopez. I’m sorry, vice versa. Lopez Liberty,

Barry Nussbaum: The ubiquitous Clare Lopez she is all-knowing and everywhere. I urge you to check her out and follow what she says and writes because you’ll learn a lot. And for those of you that didn’t do it five minutes ago, please text the word TRUTH and send it to 88202.

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